IntroductionTeaching Mission History
The Origins of The
ARCADIA TEACHING MISSION
April 17, 1993
This is the origin of the Arcaida Teaching Mission. After one of our Arcadia Study Group members, Douglas Daniels brought some transcripts to our study group that he had copied from his computer bulletin board, seven of our group decided to investigate this phenomena. We were invited to attend a session at the home of John and Jane Roper, in Corona Del Mar, Calif. We went there with open, objective minds, hoping to verify the validity of these communications. The following transcript is of that initial session attended by Hal, Lucille, Anton, Dora, Dixie, Betty and Douglas, of the Arcadia Study Group.
Jane:
September 91
John's the date guy.
John:
Actually if you back to when it started it was about 87 in New Zealand, and they had a teacher for about two years. They contacted a lot of the Urantia people in the states.
Jane:
Actually they sent letters to all the area coordinators.
John:
That's right.
Jane:
And some of them said, "Don't ever contact us again we don't want to hear about stuff like this." And the group from Utah-Thern Blackburn who was an area coordinator said:
John:
"We're interested!"
Jane:
"Send us everything you got! What's going on?" He evinced a lot interest.
John:
And they communicated some, but it kind of died away. Then about in 1990--sometime during 1990--a young woman in Salt Lake City. She was at work one day--or had a dream!
Jane:
She was a member.
John:
I do the dates, and you tell the story.
Jane:
When I need a date, I'll go--(Jane gestures her hand to John)
In 1990 she had a really vivid dream. She was a member of the study group in Utah, and she was a long time Urantia book reader in Utah.
John:
Salt Lake City.
Jane:
What did I say?
John:
Utah
Jane:
Salt Lake City
John:
It's a big state.
Jane:
It was told in this dream that her study group was going to be contacted, and that they would receive a teacher. She told her group, and they didn't hear anything for a whole year. Then one day she was at her--she was the owner of a dry cleaner--she was behind the counter, and she heard a voice in her head that said,
"Greetings, I am Ham. I am your Teacher."
She went to the meeting, and she said that I was contacted by this voice, Teacher Ham. He is ready to start teaching us. So that began that Transmitting/Receiving process there. Many of you I am sure have read the Ham transcripts. Ham taught Utah for about 18 months, and now has--sort of gotten--a promotion. He is what we kind of termed like the principle of the school of Teachers.
John:
The school administrator.
Jane:
Part of his responsibility was to actually be the conduit wherein the people would ask for teacher. They would ask Ham and Ham would sort of pass the request up, and a Teacher would be assigned to a group.
Betty:
Now, that's the Woods Cross transcripts?
Jane:
Woods Cross transcripts. He has now gone on to other responsibilities, and Woods Cross do not have a teacher at this time.
Hal:
Now, that's a curious why. Because we understood that they had Teachers to spare, and they were just short of transmitters.
Jane:
That class has completed its lessons.
Hal:
Oh, it has completed it series of lessons.
Jane:
They have completed its curriculum
Hal:
Oh, you mean there is an end somewhere.
Jane:
It's about a two year course for the moment. So, you know, of course, it was big news in the Urantia community that somebody in Utah was getting messages. Especially in light of the Bertrand/Signa thing. A lot of talking back and forth.
John:
Well, we moved here.
Jane:
The best we can tell this is from our own personal experience.
John:
We moved in the summer of '91. I started working here in April.
Dora:
From?
Jane:
Boulder
John:
Colorado, Boulder We were living in Boulder for a lot of years.
Jane:
John and I have been reading the Urantia book since 1972.
John:We were in Kermit Anderson's study group one evening, and he mentioned that--this was the first time we had hear about it this. I had heard about the New Zealand thing, and had kind of passed it off years before. But this was the first thing--first new--that had come up. So we heard it about it going on about in U-. I don't think he said where it was the first we heard about it. That there was some messages coming down. Yea--sure right--you know--it's one of those things! But we kept interested, and kept listening for new indications on what was going on. The next time we heard about it; we heard it was from Utah. Well, we've lived in Utah a couple of time.
Jane:
We studied the Urantia book with Thern Blackburn.
John:
With Thern there. We had a study group with him back in the late '70's. We didn't know it was his group at the time. Jeez, I thought coming from Utah, man.
Jane:
It was sort of like, "Can anything good come out of Galilee?"'
(GROUP LAUGHTER)
Jane:
Oh man, Utah, no way.
John:
Utah, no way. How could--they wouldn't go to Utah!
Jane:
Vince died, and we went to the memorial service which held in Norman Lear's house. When we were there Thern was there, and we said, "Hey, Thern, we're hearing great things are happening in Utah." Real cocky.
John:
"What's going on in Utah!"
Jane:
And he said, "Yeah, it's in my study group!"
John:
Oh, no! That was--having come through him. We've known Thern very well for a long time, and he was just not a flighty kind of person. He's very serious ex-Mormom bishop Urantia book reader, and had been for a lot years. Very serious into the Urantia book. Well, that's interesting. And then we got a hold of a couple of the Ham tapes, and listened to those and they sounded.....
Jane:
Well, we heard Elijah and a few of the other.
John: There are some other folks out there who are--in the past have...
Jane:
From the Urantia book readers. Joe Pope up in Canada claimed to have gotten messages. But these were different! These had....
John:
Joe's messages were very political, economic, social...
Jane:
And apocalyptical
John:
Apocalyptic, yes
Jane:
But these were different. These resonated truth. These didn't feel weird. So, we decided that we should investigate it further. And asked if we could start receiving the tapes, and did. And shared them with the Urantia book readers in our area that we are studying with here. They were a lot of people who thought it was completely weird. They were some people who thought it was sort of weird, and then they were some people who said, "Well hey, who knows!"
John:
Who knows how their going to contact us? Who knows how there going to communicate?
Jane:
But we decided to do was to keep an open mind, and keep exploring and looking at and not just shutting it down without at least taking a good look at it.
John:
Then on February 1, 1992 which is one of these handouts here. The general council of the Fellowship had a meeting here in California, and Rebecca who was the Transmitter for Ham came down with some of the Utah folks and did a transmission for whoever who would like to be there.
Jane:
Delivered an announcement....
John:
Yes
Jane:
From Ham to the General Council of the Urantia Brotherhood and also any interested people.
Jane:
Maybe, it would be nice to read it.
John:
There were about 200 people there probably.
Jane:
So this was his address:
(Excerpt from the handout. Ham's message to the assembly.)
"My profound and sincere greetings to you all this evening. I am Ham. I have been commissioned to bring the Light of Truth, and the understanding of our Father to Urantia. I am one of many Teachers. All of us are awaiting the greater reception of our word, and we are desirous of placing many teachers among you. Great is our mission. Understand us in your hearts. The time has arrived for expanded level of Truth to begin Correction. We come not for ourselves, no, indeed rather are we in the service of Michael. This day marks the beginning of the Correcting Time. Machiventa Melchizedek has arrived and has been duly inaugriated as Acting Planetary Prince of Urantia an assignment he has accepted from Michael. Long years we have awaited this day. The Lucifer Rebellion has officially ended in Nebadon. The circuits which have isolated your world are being reopened. All these changes are occurring by and accordance with the plan of Michael. Happy and joyous is this day. Blessed in the sight of our Lord. Gracious listeners I bid you welcome to change. We mark the beginning of the reign of Prince Machiventa on this day. Questions are welcome indeed. Happy am I to serve you."
Jane:
So then he took questions. It was a heavy duty atmosphere let me tell you.
John:
There was some tough questions in there if you read it.
Jane:
Some people said this is nothing...this is just Rebecca. Wake up Rebecca. Snap out of it. Other people evinced their belief in the mission. It was an amazing experience.
John:
The room felt electric! It just felt....
Jane:
Charged! Absolutely charged!
John:
Super charged! It was unbelievable.
Half expecting to see something, but we didn't.
Jane:
There had been about 10 minutes of silence, before the it started. I sort of silenced for about 5 minutes then I was (looking around) for the angels in the corners. I'm sure there are, but what's going on here you guys. (Laughter from Jane and Lucille) It was quite an interesting ........
Hal:
This was you say the Fellowship Directors.
Jane:
36th General Council
John:
Yes. Yes. Not all....
Jane:
And I say about 75% of them were at the meeting.
John:
Were at the meeting. The rest of them were....
Jane:
Just....
John:
Didn't want to be bothered...
Jane:
Didn't want have anything to do with, and didn't go.
Doug:
Was this the one that took place at the airport?
Jane & John:
Yes
John:
It was pretty interesting. We came away from it not feeling that it was not real either. We came away from it feeling that it was pretty real. And all this time there are months elapsing so we are watching it, and feeling it, and seeing how it is, and not really just jumping whole hog. We're just playing it along kind of slowly and eventually over the next few months there were about 6 of us who sort of formed a nucleus. And we talked about it, and we.....
Jane:
Do we want it?
John:
No, no.
Jane:
Too strange.
John:
Are we ready to do it? No, no, we're not sure whether we're ready to do it?
Jane:
And what we realized was that it was really important for everybody in the group to be ready to commit to seeing more about it before the whole group could go forward. There were two couples--two married couples--and two fellows. So six of us. And there would be times when one of the husbands or one of the wives or one the guys just didn't...you know--I don't think so...
John:
I don't think so...I'm not ready.....
Jane:
So we waited!
John:
So we waited!
Jane:
We waited until everybody had--was of one mind that they wanted to really ask for a teacher.
John:
So one Sunday afternoon Jane and I were sitting out here at the table, and we were talking and I said, "You know, I think it's time we call Thern. At that time you had to request a Teacher through Ham, because he was still the principle and in order to do that you had to do that. So I was going to call Ham, and Jane said, "Well, we really ought to call everybody and see what they think." And so I came in and got the phone and called everybody which is not normally like me. I'm not usually...I let her do it or something. It's not something I would just do.
Jane:
He said to me, "Do you think we should ask for a Teacher?" And I said, "Well, we really don't have everybody's permission." And I thought, "Oh, that will shut him down for a good number of....for awhile."
John:
Then I made a decision.
Jane:(?)
(Their laughter)
John:
Got the phone.
Jane:
Okay, fine.
John:
Started calling everybody. Everybody said sure. So I called.....
Jane:
Go for it!
John:
So I called (?)
Jane:
Called Thern
John:
Thern rather up in Utah. Put the request through. Then it took some time to finally happen, but that was going to happen. In the meantime. Another Sunday afternoon we were sitting out here at the table talking. Jane says, "Well, I don't want to be the Transmitter/Receiver. No, way!" And I said, "Well, I do it!"
Jane:
No, he said this, "I'd be willing to do it."
John:
Then I thought to myself, "Oh, boy, maybe I shouldn't have said that out loud like that. It may not have been smart."
(Their laughter)
John:
So, time went on. (Jane: We decided...) We heard back that we would...could have a teacher.
Jane:
That a teacher would assigned to us.
John:
But we didn't know who it was or anything about it.
Jane:
And we didn't know who the transmitter/receiver would be.
John:
No, none of that.
Jane:
It was all kind of like (?lost?) ..walking in the dark. Because nobody knew really knew how any of this to was happen.
John:
Supposed to transpire.
Jane:
It was just go along.......
Hal:
Isn't that way you go through the whole universe?!
John:
I guess.
(Group laughter)
John:
Every now and then they have a flash bulb that goes off. You get a little glimpse. You go, "What was that?!"
(Group laughter)
Hal:
Always something unseen, and something you don't know, and you don't know how you go!
Jane:
So, our group decided to just arbitrarily.... Okay,
(John: Well....what?) (Jane: What? That we would meet!") (John: Well, I had heard the name, though.) (Jane: Oh, right, right!)
John:
I was heading toward the airport to fly out of town. Business going out of town. On the way to the airport one morning I heard this voice that said, "My name is Bertrand. I am going to be your Teacher." Just as clear in my head. And I thought to myself...nay, that's was me; I was just making it up. No way...
Jane:
And Bertrand
John:
Bertrand is such an odd name.
Jane:
Sorry, Bertrand, but....
John:
It's not a normal name that I would just think of. So I didn't say anything to Jane for three weeks or so. I sort of kept it to myself. And one day we were out one Saturday garage saling, and I said I heard a name of maybe our Teacher. 'Have you heard any names?'
Jane:
So, I immediately.... (John: And, I was about to go out of town again.) I immediately start goofing on it. Well, is it Horace. Is it? All of these...Zebulon. I was just thinking up all the weird names of could think of. And he said, 'No, no get centered. Try to concentrate on this.' I said I don't have anything, John. He was going on a business trip. I said John tell me the name, because if you die we can communicate through this teacher!
(Group laughter!)
So he says, Bertrand. Okay.
John:
We passed that knowledge on up to Ham through Thern again. And got the report back that there was indeed a Teacher named Bertrand. Hadn't been assigned.
Jane:
Hadn't been assigned.
John:
Hadn't been assigned.
Jane:
Then our group decided we should meet.....
John:
Just a second. In the meantime we've been going up to the Rayson Group in Malibu, and spending some time up there talking to Rayson. Actually, trying to get Rayson to tell something going on. And he always says, 'No, I'm sorry you got to go through Ham. That's protocol.' (Jane: (Rayson's message) '...jurisdiction of Teacher Ham) 'I'm not going to tell you.'
So we decided we get together starting on Tuesday night, and that we would all...
Jane:
Just meditate. Just gather for the purpose of receiving, but (John: not knowing) not having any expectation that anything would happen. Just waiting. So we gathered, and we all were meditating like crazy. I mean ....SHZZZ....SHZZZ...SHZZZ.. I don't think ...we could ever receive anything in that environment because we were all going just like...
(John: it was just like (Jane: going out) incredible energy going out).
And we didn't hear anything. It was just like a whole evening of silence. (John: 45 minutes doing that nothing happened.
We all started meeting every Tuesday and just wait. The next Tuesday came, and that time somebody decided that we should ask question out into the air. So people asked a few questions, 'Why are we here?' and no answer.
John:
The meeting broke up after our meditating session. And I had this distinct impression that I should say to everybody before they left. 'Next week, I'll try transmitting/receiving myself--by myself--and you guys just sit and listen, but don't meditate. And if it doesn't work for me, then the next week we'll rotate somebody else can give it a try. Okay well we'll try that. So the next Tuesday was June 2. And that was first transmission, but something interesting took place after that. This was Memorial Day weekend. Jane and I were lying in bed we were about ready to go to sleep one night. We had spent some time...after having read the Ham transcripts and the words concerning seeking the stillness and all the different things that they had taught about that. We were doing that trying to seek the stillness, and (?contact) Thought Adjusters. We had gone through that kind of process, and we were just about to go to sleep and Jane says to me. "Have you ever given the Teachers permission to talk through you?" No! I haven't it! That's a good idea. So, in my mind I gave permission. So, okay, you can do that.
And immediately, I started having a vision..er dream...or something...I don't what you would call it. But I really never had anything like it before. I was being led by a being who was in a brown robe like a monk with a hood. Couldn't see the face. I was led over.....
No, No, There was questions first. There was questions happening first. That's right. So I was lying there.
(Jane: Yeah, I said to you...) (John: "Woah! Did you see that light that just came across here?")
(Jane: Right after he gave the permission.) (John: We were both lying there with our eyes closed.) (Jane: This light sort of just crossed our room and like hit John. And I said, 'Did you see that light that just came kind like of whang right at you?'. And he said, "No." (John: No. And now in 19 almost 20 years of marriage. (Hal's laughter!) When she says something like that I don't just say, No, I'm always (Jane: No!) no..I talk about it! (Jane: What was it? I mean...) (John: Who was it? Where did it come from?) (Jane: I'm having a stroke!) (John: Are you alright?) (Jane: What's going on?)
I just said, "No." In my own conscious mind I thought, boy, that was a weird thing to say. It was a kind of strange answer.
Jane:
So then...I am thinking I am talking to John. I said to him next. Why do you think?.......
John:
Why do you think they won't tell us who the Transmitter/Receiver is? Because we had asked through Ham who our Transmitter/Receiver was. And I said, "Because they don't won't abrogate the freewill choice of the person who is doing it." Okay, I don't know where that came from, but... Strange.
Jane:
I'm still thinking I'm just talking to John. And then the third thing I asked him was, 'How did.....?'
John:
'Chick Montgomery. How did Chick find out he was going to be a Transmitter/Receiver? I said, "He found in a private session." I certainly didn't know that either. There was no way I....never talked to him about it...I just knew that he was working on being a Transmitter/Receiver. And right at that point I knew that was definitely not an answer from me. And that point this vision thing happened. And this entity took me over to a well with a wooden top on it that was hinged. He reached down and dipped out what I know was to me was the water of life that he was going to give me.
Betty:
The living water.
John:
Yes. And as soon as that happened my conscious mind started analyzing what was going on....going ho! this...you've never had anything like this go on, John! This is really something....
Jane:
He never had any visions.
John:
And immediately the connection was cut....I mean it was just boom....and my right leg just about jumped off my body.
Jane:
He had one of those involuntary jerks. We had have a waterbed! The waterbed was going......oh, oh, oh.
(Group laughter)
John:
I sat up in bed, and said, 'Jane! That wasn't me!'
Jane:
He said, 'I think, I think, I had contact with the Teacher! Turn on the light see what I look at!
(Group and their laughter) Turn on the light and it looks just like John.
John:
We sat up for another 45 minutes and talked about it.
Jane:
What was like?
John:
Just as an antidote. I have talked to my boss about the Urantia book. He's not a believer. I mean, he just thinks it's some silly thing I'm involved in. That Sunday we had been to church, and I had worn my Urantia pin like you have (Anton) on my coat lapel. Forgot to take it off, and threw my coat and took off to work on Tuesday morning after Memorial Day. I stopped by his office, and kind of peeked around the door. He looked up and saw the concentric circles on my lapel and he says, "Oh! Urantia! Had any messages lately?"
(Group laughter)
John:
Oh! god Yeah, last night.
Jane:
What do you know that I don't know, Bernie? Because Bernie's is (John's boss).
John:
It is really hard to respond to....that.
Jane:
So we go to the next meeting.
Colita:
Was it that night? That Tuesday night or the following?
John:
Yeah, it was that Tuesday night. That night.
Doug:
John, just a quickie question.
John & Jane: Yes!
Was there any sensation...any physical sensation?
John:
There have been some. Sometimes my hair will kind of tingle.
Anton:
Be glad you have it!
John:
My eye twitches. That seems to be a very universal...
Hal:
Phenomenon
John:
. . . physical of all the transmitters.
Jane:
Their eyes twitch while they transmit. Completely involuntary reaction.
John:
But it seems that while...according to Ham and some of the other teachers there is a physical adjustment that the Life Carriers do to the transmitters/receivers in their minds so that they can transmit and receive. There is a adjustment that takes place.
Hal:
Are you aware of this eye twitching, and these things that take on..take place.
John:
My eye will twitch when I am at work. I mean it starts twitching on its own.
Tammy:
Do you mean during the transmission?
Hal:
During the transmission.
John:
Yes. I am totally conscious of what's going on.
Jeff:
Did you ever get to drink the water. You say you were about to and all of sudden the conscious mind....
John:
He offered it to me, and at that time my conscious mind started taking over.
Jeff:
Never gone back to that point.
John:
No. Would like to! Yes. Please ask!
Doug:
The voice did you hear was within and without at the same time?
John:
Only within. Only inside. It wasn't auditory.
Anton:
Did you find that your boss was involved with the Urantia book after all?
John:
No
Anton:
That he was just kidding on the .....
Jane:
We gave him the Urantia book. But I don't think he's reading it.
Betty:
John, when you say that your eye twitches at work...do you think that something is going there?
John:
Well, usually, I have attributed to the Life Carriers doing something. I honestly don't pay a whole lot of attention to it other than to note in my own conscious and that..oup....there is my eye twitching again.
Jane:
Most of the transmitter/receivers that we've talked to you....something happens to their head....like their hair....their....you know, Roxy, was saying the prickly feeling in your hair.
Hal:
Developing a halo for him.
(Betty?--Hal!)
Dixie:(?) perhaps (?) an entry way...so to speak.
John:
There was so fatigue early on. (Jane: Fatigue, and your hands...) Hands sometime tingled. (Jane: (Laugh) Probably high blood pressure) Strange, unusual dreams that you wouldn't normally have...I had just prior to beginning transmitting and receiving. A lot of this was just a gradual thing. (Betty: What do you mean....)I didn't know what was going on. I just thought you know.....
Betty:
What do you mean strange and unusual? (Doug: That was what I was going to ask him?)
Jeff:
What was the nature of these dreams?
John:
Just not normal for myself. I can't....I know what my normal dreams are and these were just slightly off the normal track.
Betty:
Did you remember them? No.
John:
No. I just remember that they were (Betty: different) different.
Hal:
Did you wake up with a pleasant or unpleasant feeling?
John:
No, I wouldn't say... they were just different. They weren't good or bad.
?Dixie:
Neutral
Doug:
Did you desire to remember them, but couldn't do it?
John:
Well, no, I've never really had...never really had a conscious desire to remember my dreams anyway. Right after I wake I could talk about them, but I don't usually try to remember dreams unless they were very significant.
Jane:
Talk about traveling. Driving in Utah.
John:
Oh, yeah, I think I was prepared long...years ago, because as soon as we decided to do this I was ready. And it appears from the some of the transcripts that it takes as much as two years o get a Transmitter/Receiver ready. During a number of years when we lived in Colorado and Lincoln, Nebraska I traveled for Honda. I was working for Honda. I was traveling all over that part of the country by car, and I spend a lot of..a lot of time by myself traveling those flatlands out there having wonderful conversations in my head. I guess there were just no me talking to myself. I guess I may have had other things going on other...(laugh)..than just me.
Hal:
You weren't aware of it at the time, though.
John:
I have a feeling that I was prepared some time ago for doing this.
Jane:
Okay, so..we had our meeting Bertrand came. And gave us a lesson on Agondonters. It was a short lesson and it was followed by questions and answers. We just started meeting...at that point it was Tuesday. (John: Tuesday and then) And we now changed to Monday night. And little by little people have introduced their friends to it and now we have 22 people in our class. Most of them to come religiously.
Hal:
Did you ever ask Bertrand as to why they were so coy about letting you in on what was happening?
Jane:
You know, we never did.
John:
No, but I am sure that it has to do with free will.
Jane:
Another thing we learned way early......(John: ? freewill) Another thing we learned was that we were going to have 2 Teachers. (John: Yeah!) And were kind of perplexed about that. They told us our group was somewhat of an experiment; that it would grow pretty large and that two teachers were really what they wanted to go with us. So after awhile. After really not very long...about six weeks....two months? (John: HmmmHmmm) our other Teacher appeared. I actually heard her name myself. I heard her name first. She introduced herself to me. I said to John that I think I heard the name of the other Teacher. Monday night there she was there. That was a big shock. So now we have Bertrand and Signa. They teach us every Monday.
Anton:
Do you have the sense that this was planned as part of the...I mean at the time the Urantia papers were coming through that this was all....continuity here.
Jane:
That was they said. That it was all in the revelation to have Teachers come. They did not tell the early people.
Jeff:
That makes it part...I guess..of the Fifth Epochal Revelation.
Jane:
Oh yes. Definitely. It's not a new revelation. There is no expectation that there is going to be new information.
Jeff:
Like Name? asked the question in the Ham thing right there. And the answer to her question was that it was a restatement of the living gospel.
Jane:
It still is Urantia revelation being disseminated to the world. Now, the difference is that the rebellion is over and the planet is being reclaimed for Michael. What we have read we've found a couple sites in the Urantia book. Of course, the one thing we didn't tell you that as we were researching it and trying to figure it out if we thought it was really true. We went to the Urantia book...(we have it on the computer...don't tell the Foundation) and looking everywhere for adjudication; for rebellion....
John:
Communications, anything that would lend credence to this happening. There is a lot in there. Many different places throughout the book talk about what goes on a normal planet. This kind stuff is normal. What goes on when a rebellion is completed. What happens when the Melchizekdeks comes when they bring a staff of mortals..ascending mortals...to come to be the conduits to talk...communicate...with the mortals of the planet. There is so much in there that talks about it that's it hard to believe that we didn't realize it before. But as soon as this started happening and went back and read some of this stuff. Whoah! that's pretty amazing.
Hal:
Did you say this happens..the Teachers are on normal planets?
John:
Yes It's a different kind of contact going on, but there is contact between the mortal and the unseen realm. Just normal contact that goes on a normal basis.
Anton:
Some of the papers..that the few that Dora & I have read have given us the impression that almost time is being accelerated. That the process of trying to help humanity is being.....
Betty:
The Correcting Time
Anton:
Is this going on in other parts of the world, and with non-Urantia readers. (John & Jane: Yes.) Like the whole planet is a mess. (John: Yes.) Our doing, but...
John:
It is going on worldwide. About 60% of the teaching classes are connected with Urantia book readers. About 40% are non-Urantia book readers throughout the reader. There is a about...little over....hundred teaching groups.
Jane:
We have heard Europe, Russia, China.
Jeff:
Are most of them belonging to some religion or another?
John:
That couldn't tell you. Their very scarce mentioning anything about them.
Jane:
In a little while Bertrand and Signa are going to be here and you can ask them. Their here now, but....
Jeff:
What does the mission involve? What are they Teachers trying to accomplish?
John:
What they are really trying to do is to bring the book alive. There is a lot facts in the book...in the Urantia book. But they don't become real truth ...living truth until you begin to experience it. What they are trying to do is to help us to experience those teaching in our interactions with those who need.
Jane:
Like some of our lessons for instance have been on the topic recognizing other truth seekers and kind of practical day to day integration of the Urantia book into our daily lives. The Urantia book is an incredible revelation, but it's kind of lean on how-to's. It doesn't say now go and meditate and then go to people in elevators. Ask them....is God working in your day today!
John:
The best..the really best example of that is by studying the life of Jesus..of course. But even that it's difficult, because he lived 2,000 years ago in a culture that was different strange to us. We have much different problems and things that we have to deal with..although our human interactions are the same. The environment is different, and does put a different spin on how we go about trying to spread the teachings. But basically what they want us to do is to spread the good news that Jesus...(Jane: the Fatherhood of God) Fatherhood of God, and the Brotherhood of Man.
Jeff:
So do they suggest we go out and start talking to people about the Urantia book.
John:
No, not really. No, just as you pass by. Really is what they are indicating. What they really do is give you some knowledge on how to do that effectively just in your normal daily life.
?:
That comes out with the questions....
John:
It enhances our own spiritual growth.
Jane:
Absolutely
John:
There is one other thing that they teach. And that is daily seeking contact with the Thought Adjuster which they call the Stillness. And that's really nothing different than the Urantia book teaches, but they give us the techniques on how to do that.
Jane:
It's just meditating. It's just taking time with God, and putting that as a priority in your life. Wanting to be with the Father.
Jeff:
So if you were to ask the question could I learn all this from the Urantia book?
John:
Yes. But it's an unusual person who has the fortitude to study the Urantia book and take those teachings into their life and can have the practical knowledge of how to do that. We just don't have that practical knowledge. So some of the critics of the teaching mission.
Jane:
And there are many.
John:
There are critics. I wouldn't deny that. Some of my best friends are critics.
Jane:
It's a very controversial thing in the Urantia movement by far. The biggest!
Lucille:
What would be their objections?
John:
I don't know.
Jane:
That they don't thing it's real. That they think that transmitter/receivers are making it up. That they are trying to create...
Hal:
Become a guru
Jane:
Guru!
John:
They're trying to take over the moment! Which is one of the first things they start saying.
Jeff?:
Some of this prejudice is any kind of channeling at all.
Jane:
Yes. That the Urantia book uses that term sort of channeling.
Dixie:
There is a difference between channeling out there. The difference that I have seen is that it's universal. You can contact the Teachers through a group. I mean it's not just unique person sitting there, and they are only ones who can talk to this person. (Jane: Right) And there is other Teachers for all the groups. And that is normal in most channeling.
John:
Normally with channeling that's true. Period.
Jane:
And the fact that the rebellion has been adjudicated. It has put a whole new take on everything that has been happening in the Urantia movement, because the circuits are open and we are not isolated. We're not this thing set apart. They are going to bring to the state of Light and Life where we can rejoin the family of planets.
Jeff:
What was the date given as to when this...1985?
Jane:
It was in 1985.
John:
It was in October when the final adjudication. Was in October 1985. Caligastia, Dalgastia, Lucifer, and Satan are all gone.
Jane:
They all denied the Father's mercy, and have been agnail. [?]
John:
They chose (?) extinction.
Jeff:
Didn't say something about that their some kind of formless energy or something?
John:
No. They are nothing now. (Jane: They were as they never were.) They are as if they never were.
Jeff:
What was that we were talking about the other day or was it last week about some kind of energy?
Betty:
Like a residue that was left over.
John:
There was negative energy. It was in Welmek's stuff somewhere. Someone asked a question they said there is a lot of....life..negative lifeless energy. I think that was the term.
Dixie:
It will dissipate over the time.
John:
Yeah, it will. And that's something that has built over the last 150,000 years and it's just going to take some time for that to.....dissipate.
Jeff:
Is that negative life? What is it? Is it in the mind circuits or where is this? I don't know. I try to understand that.
Jane:
Let's ask the Teachers.
Tammy:
It's a two-year curriculum for this lesson and teaching. Some of the groups have finished this process.
Jane:
Woods Cross and New Zealand are the only ones that we know that have completed their curriculum.
Tammy:
Is that the grand plan? The totality of the plan is to go through this and in two years with a specific group to teach them certain lessons and then move on to something else or will something else come from the channeling to the group.
Jane:
Two things. The Teacher's Mission is for 1,000 years, and curiously the Trinity Teachers Sons come 1,000 years before the advent of Light and Life. So I don't know.. I have extrapolated that to be kind of significant that after the Teachers are done the Trinity Teacher Sons will come. But we'll never be left Teacherless. We'll have personal Teachers after the class Teachers have left. And that's one of the goals. There is enough Teachers available for every single mortal on Urantia. To have some Teachers.
Hal:
That was one question I wanted to ask John. Have you had the feeling of having personal instruction and information that has been beneficial to you out of it or do you just transmit their information?
John:
I know what has been said so I gain from the lessons that come through just like Jane and the rest of the class does.
Hal:
You know what has been said not from the transcripts, but from which you remember?
John:
At first, I really couldn't remember what had taken place. I really didn't have a good handle on what was going on, but as time has gone I have had a much better recall of what the transmissions were.
Jane:
And sometimes John has had a desire to go Rayson and listen so he can be taught.
John:
I'll be on your side.
Jane:
To be the question asker.
Anton:
Who is doing the Rayson?
Jane:
I don't know.
Hal:
Roxy is part time.
John:
Yeah, she does it once a month. And then JoAnn (Jane: Joan) Joan.
Jane:
They have a couple three people that are transmitting Rayson. But that group is kind of...with Roxy being so sick. It's kind of dependent on her energy, and it's not a real every week thing.
John:
I think they meet three weeks out of the month.
Lucille:
Do you feel energy let down afterward?
John:
Yes.
Lucille:
You do.
Jane:
? brings goodies so scarfs up those Pepperidge Farm cookies pretty good.
John:
There is an energy drain. There certainly is. The best I am able to do is about an hour half. And then once...I can't do any more. That's about as far as I can go.
Hal:
You are aware of being tired. I know they commented that your being tired.
John:
Yes. It's interesting. Because a little about the actual process. I'll close my eyes and in my mind I dedicate my will to the Father's will. I ask my Adjuster to take my conscious mind and keep it in his safe keeping while I transmit. And then I give permission to the Teachers or whoever present to do what they do. And then I wait and listen. Then I begin to hear..sometimes I hear words....sometimes they are full concepts. A full conceptual thing. It's like a information dump where the whole answer from beginning to end is all there at one time. And other times I'll be going along and it'll end. And it will end in the middle of a sentence, and I've no idea where their headed. I just wait until they come along and give me the next line. So it's different. It's not always the same thing. What is interesting is that with my eyes closed. My conscious mind is out here about here (John gestures to the right side of his head near his ear.) When the transmission occurs they come down kind of in the middle of my head like this (?) I don't think that's the same that all the transmitter/receivers experience. Although they all have a similar experience of their conscious mind for some reason residing outside of their physical body during the process. But I am totally aware of what's going on. I just can't think about it. Because as soon as start thinking as soon as my conscious mind starts processing what's happening the communication is broken. So that's the key to doing the transmitting is to quiet..still your own conscious mind from it's thinking.
Hal:
Have you had felt that you accomplished being able to quiet your mind before this had every happened.
John:
I had never tried it..so I really don't know.
Hal:
So you hadn't tried it before?
Jeff?:
So does it seem to you that Bertrand is a totally separate being..it wouldn't be like possibly your super conscious coming in....like...you would call Higher Self or something?
John:
I feel absolutely certain that it's somebody else. Because Bertrand has one personality. Signa has a different one. Occasionally Machiventa will come along and that's something real different!
(The tape has changed sides. At this point possibly to my best recollection, John is no longer talking about the transmission of Machiventa Melchizedek. He is instead talking about transmitting a message direct from Michael.^)
. . . . Powerful presence It was not the Spirit of Truth.
Jane:
Apparently Michael has a circuit now (John: a private circuit) for the planet to.....
Hal:
Communicate directly
Jane:
Communicate directly
John:
Absolutely directly. .......
John:
I couldn't go on. I had to take a break.
Jane:
The class couldn't go on either.
John:
In transcripts it's only about four pages long. Normally it's about 13-20 pages.
Hal:
In Other words it just overwhelmed the atmosphere.
Jane:
Yeah, totally
John:
Yeah, And it was a beautiful transmission. It was real short.
Hal:
Yeah, that might be interesting! Do we have copies of it?
John:
Lucille's book. He talks specifically about what the mission is. February...early February.
Jane:
This is Bertrand and Signa from last year starting in June 2 until December 14.
Dora:
Jane, did you say that there are other groups that have couples?
Jane:
Yeah, apparently there are some. I know ? and Kansas City have two.
Lucille:
After the second year for these groups that the Teachers have gone on; do they have assignments periodically?
Jane:
Supposedly, that is the idea. Woods Cross assignment is to keep meeting and to keep their fellowship together and stay together.
Betty:
And each of them have a Teacher?
John:
.....Woods Cross went every week for 18 months except for a few.
Jane:
Thern Blackburn is in the final stages of editing the pool of last years tapes. By editing they are not revised, but when people ask questions it's hard to articulate how you want to ask your questions. Most of us start and then we go....what I really mean is ...... ....so we got all those out of there.
John:
All their thoughts are there.
Jesus said, "My wonderful children of time I come to you this evening not as System Sovereign, but as your brother. The Kingdom of God on Urantia is at hand. My plan for the redemption of this my home sphere is preceding with all due haste. I come this evening also to speak of your mission. The mission of spreading of my teachings is nothing more and nothing else than letting your light shine before your brothers and sisters as you pass by. When I walked on Urantia nearly 2,000 years ago my greatest works were done personally and privately. Many men and women were brought into the kingdom during this time (of my mission) and so it will be for you. Each of you in your daily lives must let the light of Truth shine on all that you meet. Share that love of God; share the fact of His presence in every living moment and share His love. So many of your brothers and sisters want to hear this saving Truth. It is not difficult. It is not a hard yoke to bear. And I am with you in every encounter. Look into your hearts each of you and know that the Father will guide you in every moment. Men and women will be called to do great things, but not all must stand before the multitudes and praise my name. The real work of the kingdom will be done by you and as each new light shines in each new heart this (?) of God within. We will be one step closer to the full and total redemption of Urantia into the age of Light and Life. I encourage you. I pray for you. I send all these helpers to minister to you, give you guidance, and offer you counseling. This I do for you. In return all that I ask is that you share that light of Truth with your brothers and sisters...my brothers and sisters. I leave you now to your wonderful learned Teachers. Always be of good cheer.
Hal:
The implications of that is really something.
John:
I still get.... (Jane: choked up) yes.
Hal:
Has anyone asked the Teachers what they do in between a session?
Jane:
Yeah (John: Yeah) Every Saturday night John and I have what is called a practice session. (John: It's really Jane's night to talk by herself.) When I was thinking about John becoming a transmitter/receiver I was really resistant, because John and I have really wonderful, intimate mind relationship. And I thought I don't won't some weird thing in his mind. This is going to be too strange! What I hadn't realized because I am his practice partner...by practice it just keeps his transmitting/receiving skills sharp.
John:
They call it a muscle.
Jane:
They encourage us to all practice. So every Saturday night he and I would practice. I get to ask the Teacher...what my heart desires. So I have asked all sorts of goofy questions! What do they look like? What do their houses look like? I mean I run out of profound spiritual questions! Do you have stores?
John:
What did you do today? What did you do this week?
Hal:
They say they comment our curiosity is surprising to them!
Jane:
Yes. Sure
John:
Surprisingly enough they generally answer the questions. They really do. It's not very often that they say: Well,.....
Dixie:
Do you keep a record of your own questions?
Betty:
Did you ever ask if they have books?
Jane:
We asked if they had the Urantia book on the mansion worlds, and yes they do. You can have access to it.
(Betty: Great!) The other thing I won't to say before we get into it; is that all 37 of the planets in the rebellion have received a Teaching Mission also. so, it is a big project.
Tammy?:
What do they do?
Jane:
First of all of they live at the Mariposa Grove in Yosemite. That's where their headquarters are. They have lots of meetings.
John:
They do a lot of planning. (Jane: meetings...)
Jane:
They visit each person in the class often constantly.
Hal:
You mean our minds are an open book to them.
Jane:
No, not our minds, but our houses....that part was strange to us!(laugh). (John: No. They don't ever...)
Dixie:
They knock when they come.
Hal:
They don't influence it, but they.....
Tammy?:
I did read that in one of the transcripts it said that they check out our minds and our thoughts and our memories.
Hal:
That sort of keeps you on your toes when you realize that's going on!
John:
You have to given them permission to do that. They don't do that without asking.
Dixie:
Our freewill reigns supreme.
Jane:
Absolutely
Tammy?:
Then why would they say that. It was in the transcripts.
Jane:
First of all. Let's talk about that. This is not an exact science. When the Urantia book was first transmitted they really took over the contact person's mind, lips, vocal cords. He was not conscious. His mind did not enter into the experience. They didn't use his vocabulary. He was really a pure conduit. That's why some of the transmissions and some of the transcripts are ......(^variable^) The mind of the transmitter/receiver can involve itself in the process and color it! In fact, there is a lot of controversy right now about April 24. Apparently the transmitter/receiver in ? feels that she has gotten that Machiventa is going to make a materialization at that time. We have had no confirmation of that whatsoever. In fact our Teacher has said if anything it will be a mind visualization. You will see him.. Machiventa with your mind's eye, but he will not materialize in front of your's eyes like Gabriel did to Mary. What we have extrapolated from that is that it's the desires of the transmitter/receivers to have certain events happen. To have colored the experience and John's I think is a real clear channel for a lack of a better word. There are errors! (John: There are errors. They say that there are errors.)
Dixie:
In one of the transcripts they said that there was errors. As Teachers they didn't want to correct the children all the time.
Jane:
I think that if they pounced on every single mistransmission immediately the transmitter/receiver is probably going to feel insecure. They couldn't do it.
Dixie:
You've corrected me enough time just forget it!
(Light laughter)
Jane:
One of the cool things that Ham said was that it was kind of like skiing. It doesn't matter if you go right or left just as long as you get to the bottom of the hill. If the substitute part of what is transmitted is okay with them (as long as most of the true substance of what is transmitted is received),
Jeff:
The stillness in meditation. From your perspective with both of you how does that differ from.....I always thought in terms of worship and prayer and all that. Meditation can be so many different things.
Jane:
Urantia book talks about at the end of your prayer time to listen. Spend some time listening. It is listening. I have had some pretty good success in actually I have had some breakthrough contact with my Thought Adjuster. What I do is.....I do it in the morning for about 10 or 15 minutes. I lie on my waterbed and I just...Signa has given us a lot of techniques...meditation techniques...guided meditation and sometimes I use those. It started out for me though I would just say Jesus' name slowly over and over again in my head. And then this has been about (?4?) years before the Teachers came. What I decided to do was imagine what my Thought Adjuster if he was indeed talking to me. And those would be really wonderful affirmations that I was his "precious child" that "he loved me" and "that he was pleased with my progress" "that all is well with my soul". Just real positive things. These were me saying it to me. And then eventually there was kind of this resonance that occurred in my mind that it wasn't me saying it to me anymore. That it was him saying it to me. And so I would begin to ask, "That's not me anymore is it!" And I heard this little small voice saying, "No! It's me!"
Doug:
I share this with you. I came to the Urantia book very strangely. What was really strange to me, but.... One of the my early experiences that convinced me of the Urantia book...I experienced personally that nobody else experienced! It was at a time that I was going through problems and was really seeking a solution... I had read the Urantia book on the train at night. ........turned the light off....I was lying down...reflecting on .....what I read....I said....I heard myself saying out loud..."Dear Father, everybody has experienced you in their life, but I haven't experienced you. Where are you in my life?".....I heard a voice within and without..He says. "I am right here with you all the time." It freaked me!
(Group laughter)....(Hal: Who's in here?!")...I reached over and turned the light on and nobody was there....I looked at myself in the mirror and tears were in my eyes and I was laughing all at the same time. From the moment the voice spoke it was like every atom in my body kind of exploded! It was kind of like....more than sexual. At that point I said okay that I never experienced this....I'm from a religious family....been in a church all my life the whole bit...but I never experienced anything like that...I was reluctant to share that with anybody. Because...it was something totally out of the ordinary! Ever since I've been reading...you mentioned this eye twitching thing...every since I've started reading the Urantia book I had needed glasses. My eyes have been bothering me.....
Jane:
That's really wonderful! (John: Yeah!)
Hal:
I've often wondered if that is a similar experience of so called born again Christians. Where they have an emotional reaction with them?
John:
It's a variety of spiritual experience. It's individual.
Hal:
It's individual for each person.
Jane:
To directly answer you about the stillness. There is nothing real mysterious. It's just committing the time every day to....the Father.
Jeff:
I think I mostly poking around the person for myself the perspective of it, because there are some warnings in there about over much distraught...that sort of stuff.. What were you describing to me correlates pretty well with what we were just reading last actually about the....Jesus' was talking about his forming a more intimate relationship with his Father internally. You can be walking along talking to yourself in a sense in your head and that I understand pretty well. I've always kind of wondered am I praying or am I worshiping or am I just talking to myself? Is that stillness...is that? That's kind of a dialogue.
Jane:
What I realized about is...it isn't going to matter if it is you talking to you or God talking to you, because the fact that when we are fused it means that...it is God that is going talking to us and us going to talk to God.
John:
Stillness is....all that it simply is trying to have control over the electrical chemical process in your mind. Control your thoughts....so can you hear.
Jeff:
Similar to the TM techniques in some ways.
Jane:
Meditation. Worship. One of the things that I have really gotten in the lessons is not to beat yourself up about when worrying about the American Express bill or whatever what comes in your mind when your trying to do this. It just like okay. Are the clothes done in the dryer! That's just going to happen! But the point is that you are there with God...having time together. Sometimes I'll say I don't want to talk, and I don't want answer questions, I just want to worship you. It's your personal relationship with God. I always sort of liken it--I've really got this good friend; I never call her; I never go over to see her; I never even hardly think about her; but, man, we are so close! That's how a lot of my life I've been with God--feeling like I was in communion with Him, but not really allotting any time to be with Him.
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